“Not Enough Waste to Burn”: A Dangerous Fallacy

Then, upon hearing that “incineration plants in Zhejiang and Shanghai are racing to other provinces and cities to compete for waste to burn”, some began to sigh with relief: “This news truly lets me enjoy overpackaged products without guilt; I used to feel so guilty.” It has even sparked rhetoric that reverses right and wrong, such as “It’s time to call on everyone to throw away more rubbish” or “Forget sorting your waste; just haul it all straight to the incinerators”.
Given that the misleading impact of this video continues to intensify and spread, we have invited two veterans from the fields of waste management and environmental advocacy for this episode to unpack what “not enough waste to burn” really means:
- Is there really not enough waste to burn now? Why can’t this question be answered with a simple “yes” or “no”?
- The video quotes Academician Du Xiangwan’s phrase “Waste is a misplaced mountain of gold and silver”. What does this actually mean? What should be the primary principle of waste management? Why is incineration considered the final resort in waste treatment?
- Can existing incineration technologies truly prevent the formation of dioxins, along with other toxic emissions and air pollutants, during actual operation?
- Can waste incineration replace waste sorting? Why does efficient incineration actually depend on sorting waste?
- Reducing waste at the source shows care for both the planet and ourselves. With much single-use plastic waste coming from food packaging, do you truly understand the dangers of microplastics and plastic additives to human health?
- How is the massive generation of waste linked to our consumer culture? Who should bear responsibility for reducing waste generation: consumers or businesses? Why might incineration actually hinder broader efforts to reduce and recycle societal waste?

Guests for this Episode
Mao Da
PhD in Environmental History, Chairman of the Shenzhen Zero Waste Environmental Public Welfare Development Centre, and initiator of the “Toxic-Free Vanguard” campaign. For over two decades, he has worked on solid waste and environmental health projects across various environmental organisations. His current focus includes sound chemical management, green transformation of e-commerce, plastic waste pollution governance, and promoting zero-waste practices.
Sun Jinghua
Nature name “Lianpeng” (Lotus Pod), Director of the Waste Reduction Project at Friends of Nature, and editor-in-chief of the popular science book *The Magic Book of Waste*. She has spent years conducting outreach, education, and science communication in waste reduction, sorting, and campus zero-waste initiatives.
Yu Yang
Editor at Foodthink, recently exploring the toxic relationship between plastics and humans.
Host for this Episode
Tian Le
Co-ordinator for the Beijing Organic Farmers’ Market, and founding editor at Foodthink.
Timestamps
07:01 The “satisfying” appeal of waste incineration and what it reveals about our growing impatience with rubbish
08:51 Why incineration ought to be the very last resort in waste management
14:21 Can real-time monitoring guarantee that incinerators completely eliminate dioxin emissions?
18:09 Why has China constructed such a large number of waste incineration plants?
20:33 Are glass bottles that can’t be incinerated still collected by manufacturers for recycling, just as they were in our childhood?
33:33 Phthalate plasticisers in plastic packaging function as synthetic oestrogens
37:44 When ordering food delivery and explicitly selecting “no disposable cutlery”, why do restaurants still insist on including it?
49:55 How overcapacity in waste incineration drives down economic disposal costs, while the hidden social costs fall on all of us
55:40 Creative ideas to encourage businesses to cut down on or recycle single-use plastic packaging
59:45 How to connect waste reduction and recycling with your own daily routine










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