From the City to the Satoyama: A Decade of Mountain Farming by Two Scholar-Farmers

Have you ever fantasised about fleeing the city, returning to the countryside to farm, and embracing rural life? Have you ever harboured romantic notions of a “self-sufficient” existence? Yet real life on the land is far more complex and arduous than we imagine—and infinitely more moving.

Wenzizi and Changjiaoling are two people born in the 1980s who graduated from the Norwegian University of Life Sciences. Starting as complete novices to farming, they spent ten years shaping a “satoyama” in the foothills on Beijing’s outskirts—Gaia Wors Garden.

Unlike remote, untouched mountains, a “satoyama” is defined as the boundary between human settlements (li) and mountain wilderness (shan)—a transitional landscape where people and nature coexist. Across this 30-mu (approximately five-hectare) field, they cultivate vegetables, keep chickens, and run nature education programmes, while also writing, painting, and making malt syrup. They listen to the land, adapt to climate change, learn from the village’s veteran farmers, and share their space with insects, birds, trees, and plants.

Three years ago, they documented their farming journey in the book *So-Not-So-Soil: The Satoyama Life of Knowledge Farmers*, which struck a chord with many fellow growers. This year, they released a follow-up, *Farming in the Satoyama*, laying bare every trail they’ve blazed and every misstep they’ve made for readers, all while weaving in their deepest reflections on nature, ecology, and how we choose to live.

Click to learn more about their first book, *So-Not-So-Soil*

A signature dish from Worth Garden: chicken curry rice. Even the curry itself is crafted from ingredients grown on the farm!

The conversation starts over this bowl of ‘mountain-sourced curry rice’, meandering into what exactly a ‘satoyama’ is, how humans and nature can share a landscape, and how farmers continually adapt to the stark whiplash of climate change. Hail wipes out the apricot crop, autumn greens are washed away by heavy rain, runner beans fail to set pods, yet the rice thrives remarkably thanks to a longer wet season. Amid such uncertainty, they hold fast to a remarkable mindset: rather than lamenting fate, simply get the seeds in the ground. Like all living things in the natural world, as long as growth continues, life endures. They speak of it with an easy grace, yet every detail is steeped in a decade’s worth of soil wisdom.

They also touch on writing, education, and the philosophy of living alongside the land, exploring how tending even a small patch of earth can transform one’s relationship with food and the natural world. The discussion delves deeper into the spiritual sustenance that comes from this partnership with the soil: how farming eases the anxieties of city life, and why, as they put it, ‘in the fields, no sorrow lingers past nightfall’.

Ultimately, we invite you to listen to this episode and join us as we step into this satoyama—a landscape alive with lemongrass, magpie nests, and the relentless promise of renewal.

With the sole exception of not being able to cook the curry chicken over a wood-fired stove, the book club’s lunch faithfully recreated Worth Farm’s signature dish. From the upland rice to the curry paste, every ingredient was sourced from the farm, dozens of kilometres away.
Changjiaoqing, Wenzizi, Xiaomao, Heitou and Haipai at Gaia Worth Garden.
Aerial view of Gaia Worth Garden.
The term ‘satoyama’ originates from Japanese. ‘Sato’ refers to human settlements, while ‘yama’ denotes the rolling hills and low mountains that surround them. Within a satoyama, hills, paddies, orchards and homesteads form a cohesive whole, where people draw directly on natural resources to meet their daily needs. Image source: Illustration from Wenzizi’s book *Tu Li Bu Tu Qi* (Unconventional Earthiness).

Guests This Episode

Wenzi Zi ♀ Changjiaoling ♂

An urban couple born in the 1980s, both holding master’s degrees from the Norwegian University of Life Sciences, working in ecological conservation and environmental education. In 2014, they co-founded Gaia Vorse Garden and, in the outer suburbs 70 km from Beijing, began a *satoyama* lifestyle of growing and foraging their own food. Their ideal way of life: to maintain a balance between wilderness, farmland, and living spaces, allowing the rhythms of people and nature to unfold quietly upon the land.

 

 

 

Host This Episode

Tianle

Founding editor of Foodthink and convener of the Beijing Organic Farmers’ Market.

 

 

 

 

Timestamps

01:12 Why did these biology-trained “knowledge farmers” head up the mountain? Moving from greenhouses to a roughly five-acre plot in the foothills, they reflect on the shift from “observer” to “participant”.

04:37 What is “Satoyama”? It is not a place name, but a mosaic landscape where people and nature coexist—comprising fields, forests, homesteads, and wild spaces.

05:48 What grows in a Satoyama plot? Herb gardens, leafy greens, fruit trees, chickens, sheep, and various “plant neighbours”.

07:13 How do they prepare a “farm-to-table” Nepalese-style chicken curry?

11:06 Why did two environmental science postgraduates decide to get their hands dirty? Because before teaching others, you need real-world experience. Before advocating for the environment, live a sustainable life yourself.

14:19 Wisdom from veteran farmers: reading the wind direction from magpie nests, the rule “harvest sesame the moment the pods split”, and other handy tricks using what is at hand.

18:05 Trellised beans shading celery, flowering shiso attracting pollinators… How do crops support each other in mutual symbiosis?

23:17 How does climate change affect planting schedules? Hail wiping out apricots, longer rainy seasons, swapping crop varieties, delaying autumn harvests—the reality of farming at the mercy of the weather.

27:26 When a hailstorm destroyed all the ripe apricots, what was their first lesson?

29:36 A philosophy of enduring land: When a hailstorm ruins an entire season’s crop, why do farmers instinctively think of replanting rather than complaining?

36:58 Are all insects pests? How does the “human–insect–crop triad” reveal the symbiotic relationships within an ecosystem?

38:31 Why write books? Who are they for? The motivation and approach behind the two titles, and why agricultural techniques take a back seat.

45:00 Farming is not just production; it is emotional healing: “In the fields, no sorrow lasts overnight.” What has been the greatest reward after ten years of cultivation? Perhaps not higher yields, but the ability to coexist with the land, the climate, and life itself.

56:44 Q&A: How should beginners start? Which vegetables to choose? How to observe? Which crops are hardy? Turns out, even a tiny balcony garden can form its own ecosystem

Further Reading

Douban: 土里不土气 https://book.douban.com/subject/35863017/

Douban: 在里山种地 https://book.douban.com/subject/37467530/

The book that inspired Wen Zizi’s homemade malt sugar: *Love Grass: The Healing Wisdom of an American Indian*https://book.douban.com/subject/36091143/

For more information, follow the official WeChat accounts: Friends of Nature and Gaia Nature Education

Further Reading ▼

What practical skills are needed for your ideal mountain lifestyle? | 《土里不土气》 Book Club

Turns out weasels aren’t fond of chickens? Secrets uncovered after becoming neighbours to the Four Great Immortals

Vegetable prices are rising, but are farmers seeing any benefit? | Food Talk Vol. 43

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