From City to Satoyama: Two Knowledge Farmers and Ten Years Farming Up the Hill

Have you ever dreamed of escaping the city, returning to the countryside to farm, and going back to a pastoral life? Have you ever held a romantic vision of a “self-sufficient” life? Yet real life on the soil is far more complex and demanding than we imagine — and all the more moving for it.

Wenzizi and Changjiaoling are two young people born in the 1980s, both graduates of the Norwegian University of Life Sciences. Starting out as complete novices at farming, they spent ten years carving out a patch of satoyama in the foothills on the outskirts of Beijing — Gaia Wors Garden.

Unlike remote, rarely-visited deep mountain forests, the term “satoyama” refers to “the boundary between human settlements (sato) and the mountain wilderness (yama)” — a transitional zone where people and nature coexist. Across their 30 mu (about two hectares) of land, they grow vegetables, keep chickens, run nature education programmes, write books, paint, and make maltose. They converse with the soil, live alongside climate change, learn from the older farmers in the village, and share the land with insects, birds, trees, and grasses.

Three years ago, they turned their farming life into the book Rooted but Not Rustic: A Knowledge Farmer’s Satoyama Life, which was warmly welcomed by many fellow growers. This year they published a new book, Farming in the Satoyama, sharing without reservation every path they have walked and every pit they have tumbled into, and weaving in their deep reflections on nature, ecology, and ways of living.

Click here to learn more about their first book, Rooted but Not Rustic

Wors Garden’s signature dish: curry chicken rice. Even the curry is made entirely from ingredients grown on the farm!

The conversation begins with this curry meal — “everything comes from the hill” — and moves on to what satoyama really means, how people and nature share a piece of land, and how farmers keep adjusting to the violent swings of climate change. Hailstones have wiped out the apricots, autumn crops have been washed away by rain, French beans have stopped fruiting, yet the rice, with the rainy season stretching ever longer, has flourished unexpectedly. Amid all this uncertainty, they maintain a remarkable outlook: don’t curse the sky or blame others — sow more seeds right away. Like every living thing in nature, as long as you can keep growing, life never ceases to renew itself. They speak so lightly, yet every detail carries ten years of hard-won experience on the land.

They also discuss writing, education, the philosophy of living alongside the soil, and why growing even a small amount of your own food can transform the relationship between people, food, and nature. They delve deeper still into the spiritual nourishment that comes from life on the land: how farming dissolves urban anxiety, and why “there is no sorrow that lasts a night in the soil.”

In short, you are welcome to tune in and step with us into this satoyama where lemongrass grows, magpies nest, and hope never stops growing.

Apart from being unable to cook the curry chicken in a wood-fired wok, the lunch at this book club faithfully recreated Wors Garden’s signature dishes — from the upland rice to the curry, everything came from the farm, just a few dozen kilometres away.
Changjiaoling, Wenzizi, and Xiaomao, Heitou, and Haidao at Gaia Wors Garden.
Aerial view of Gaia Wors Garden.
The word “satoyama” derives from the Japanese term satoyama, where “sato” refers to the human settlements where people live and “yama” denotes the hills and foothills surrounding them. In a satoyama, mountain, field, garden, and dwelling form a unified whole, and people draw directly on the natural resources of the surrounding land to sustain their lives. Image source: illustration from Wenzizi’s Rooted but Not Rustic.

This Episode’s Guests

Wenzizi ♀ Changjiaoling ♂

A couple of young people born in the 1980s, both with master’s degrees from the Norwegian University of Life Sciences, working in ecological conservation and environmental education. In 2014, they co-founded Gaia Wors Garden in the far suburbs, 70 kilometres from Beijing, embarking on a satoyama life of growing their own food. Their ideal life: keeping a balance between wilderness, farmland, and human habitation, letting the rhythms of people and nature unfurl quietly upon the land.

 

 

 

This Episode’s Hosts

Tianle

Founding editor of Foodthink and convener of the Beijing Organic Farmers’ Market.

 

 

 

 

Timeline

01:12 Why did a biology graduate become a “knowledge farmer” and head up the hill? From polytunnel to thirty mu of foothills land — experiencing the shift from “observer” to “participant.”

04:37 What is “satoyama”? Not a place name, but a landscape in common where people and nature coexist — fields, forest, home, and wildness alike.

05:48 What grows on the satoyama land? An herb garden, leafy-green beds, fruit trees, chickens, sheep, and all manner of “plant neighbours.”

07:13 How do you make a “self-sufficient” curry chicken with Nepali flavours?

11:06 Why did two environmental master’s graduates decide to put their hands in the soil? Because before you’re “fond of teaching others,” you need real experience. Practise sustainable living before advocating for it.

14:19 The wisdom of old farmers: reading wind direction from a magpie’s nest, knowing sesame “pods are splitting — harvest them straightaway,” to “clever tricks right at your fingertips.”

18:05 Climbing beans shading the celery, perilla flowering to attract pollinators… how do crops help and sustain one another?

23:17 How does climate change upend a planting plan? Hail wiping out apricots, the rainy season stretching on, swapping varieties, autumn crops running late — farming truly at the mercy of the heavens.

27:26 When a single hailstorm destroys every ripe apricot, what is the first lesson you learn?

29:36 The philosophy of a land that never stops growing: after hail wipes out the whole season’s harvest, why do farmers reach for seeds first, not for complaints?

36:58 Are all insects pests? How does the “human–insect–crop triangular chain” reveal mutual aid within an ecosystem?

38:31 Why write books? Who should read them? The motivation behind both volumes, the writing process, and why agricultural technique is not the point.

45:00 Farming is not just production — it is also emotional healing: “there is no sorrow that lasts a night in the soil.” What was the greatest harvest of ten years on the land? Perhaps not the yield, but the ability to live alongside the soil, the climate, and life itself.

56:44 Q&A: How does a beginner start? What crops to choose? How do you observe? Which varieties are hardy and forgiving? Turns out even a tiny balcony garden can form a system of its own

Further Reading

Douban — Rooted but Not Rustic https://book.douban.com/subject/35863017/

Douban — Farming in the Satoyama https://book.douban.com/subject/37467530/

The book that inspired Wenzizi’s homemade maltose: Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants https://book.douban.com/subject/36091143/

To learn more, follow us on WeChat: Friends of Nature and Gaia Nature Education

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